Ok so i should keep my mouth shut as this doesn't apply in Scotland where we've gone for a total ban. I think the arrangement they've come to is a total cop out but then i am an asthmatic who is badly affected by cig smoke and can't wait until the total ban comes into place up here!

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I have voted this but thought i would say here instead i am a smoker although i wish i wasnt i am and despite stopping several times i have failed so as i smoker i think it should be band in public places where there is food being served i do not smkoe at a table in a resteraunt anyway unless it is smoking and i am wish friends who smoke if i am with my little boy or hubby i dont smoke of course, however part of my socalising down town in pubs and clubs is drink in one hand and smoke in the other now i htink maybe i would cut down or stop if i couldnt go out and smoke i dont know or maybe i would just stay in and sulk who knows.
However i am a smoker i just wish i wasnt one i do think that the goverment should concentrate on public matters that really need seeing to as they are struggling fullstop to run this country as it is and i dont think it is their job really to act like god and tell people what they can and cant do, so you see i am very confused of which vote to choose.
"however, i think it is easy to stop smoking as i have done this a million times"

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Not jumping on you but just thought i'd add my tuppence worth here. See I think it IS their job to do this, not in order to rule your life or anyone elses but in order to protect those that are harmed by smoking and who chose not to smoke.

I hate smoke, i hate smoking near me, i hate the fact that it makes me ill and very hard for me to breathe and it makes my clothes and hair smell. In fact it's THE main reason i never go to pubs/clubs but with the law as it is, i have no protection from someone who choses to smoke next to me at a bus stop, at a concert, in a restaurant (yeah they have smoking sections but they're not really very separate, are they?) or in a pub. Yeah, i can avoid these places I guess but it's hardly fair that i have to.

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Well as i see it option 3 doesnt apply. People have freedom of choice when they choose to smoke so saying somewhere is a non smoking area isn't really taking away their freedom of choice all it means is they can't smoke in that particular place. Smokers can't smoke in shops, hospitals etc and they don't kick off about that they just go outside.

Employers have a duty to their staff to provide a safe working environment and tonnes of smoke in the air isn't ideal. It's all well and good to say if you don't like smoke find a new job but then that's taking away the choice of non smokers to work where they want. Smoking isn't a requirement of doing bar work and so anyone doing it has the right to expect a decent ventilation/extraction system to minimise any damage.

I'm torn between choice one and two. Yes it is a cop out but then at the same time it's a compromise. I suffered really badly from asthma working at the bookies from the amount of smoke in there. It was a nightmare - no ventilation or extractors in a tiny room with 20+ people smoking their heads off meant I ended up in a bad way. But I could walk to the pub next door and sit with those same 20+ people all smoking in a room slightly smaller and be fine. Why? Because the extraction system was brilliant. Likewise a pub in a nearby village that's known for good food and has no non smoking areas has such a good system that the smokers really don't affect you unless you're actually sat at the same table as one.

I do agree with the no smoking where food is served there's nothing worse than someone elses smoke when you're eating. One pub in our village has a seperate room as a restaurant which is non smoking and so that's great. Everyone eats in a non smoking environment and smokers are happy in the bar area that has a good extractor system. Most pubs have more than one room. A non smoking food room would work great with a seperate room for smokers with a top notch extractor system. That would work far better as a compromise than what's proposed.

As a compromise it could work well if all people want to do is eat out in a smoke free environment. But what about people that want to go out drinking and dancing? As a cop out it's going to bring a fresh set of problems for people to moan about. If pubs choose smoking over food then where will they get their lost revenue from? Will the cost of drinking there go up meaning they'll lose even more customers? If less places do food then where's the competition? Places will cash in on the fact that there's fewer places doing food and start charging more meaning they'll then lose customers. Where do they draw the line? Will some places just do bar snacks as oppose to full blown meals and try and get round it that way? How many pubs will end up going under because they're trying to keep what they consider the right customers happy?

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I think it is a complete cop out and there should be a total ban. I agree with what Rach has said completely. I choose not to smoke and never have done yet there are very few places that I can go where I am not affected by other people that are smoking. I don't think that is fair. Paul and I do go out and will normally sit in the non smoking area of a pub or restaurant if they have one. Yet in all of the pubs near us, you have to walk through the smoking area to get to the non smoking one. You then have to walk back through it to get to the bar when you want another drink. That is enough to make my clothes and hair stink. Where is the sense in that. Shouldn't the non smoking areas be where the bar is and the smoking area be separate.

I know quite a few people that don't go out at all but I think they would if they could go to a pub or club where there is a complete ban. I think me and Paul would go out a bit more too but at the moment everyone time we do go out, we come home stinky and sometimes my eyes are quite red and itchy.

I can be stood at a bus stop or just walking down the street and someone near me smoking is affecting me. If I need to get that bus, I've got nowhere else to go and so need to stand in that queue with the person smoking next to me. I don't think that is fair at all.

I work at a hospital and they are having a complete ban on the whole premises from next April. At the moment they have areas outside but a complete ban for patients, staff and visitors is coming into force in a few months. I will be glad. At the moment staff and patients congregate outside the doors to have a ciggie and you have to walk through it all to get in and out. They are saying that you can't smoke anywhere on the premises so will have to walk out of car park on to the road. In theory you can't sit in your car and smoke in the car park as you are on hospital premises where there is a ban. I am not sure how they are going to police that though. Staff that smoke are being told that they will have to go completely off the premises in order to have a fag which means breaks of over 15 mins so that they can walk out on to the main road where they are off the premises. I don't think that is fair as I and others who don't smoke will have to cover them. Thats a whole other issue though.

I would be all for a complete ban in all public places but I don't think that will happen. You can't keep everyone happy all of the time. I know people who think it is their right to be able to smoke where and when they want but surely its my right as well not to have to put up with a smokey environment everytime I walk down the street or go out.

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I am in favour of the smoking ban (although living in scotland it appears it doesnt matter anyway). I am a smoker, but I gave up completely during both my pregnancies and got a real taste of what non smokers have to go through.
So these days, I never smoke in restaurants and even at bus stops etc I am very conscious of the people around me and either stand well away from them if I am smoking or just wait until there is no one around. I am hoping to have given up completely by the time the ban comes into force, I think its just the push i need.

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No i do agree with you like i say i a confused on this anyway i dont know if i care weather they do ban or not i just will fall into the changes what ever they rae like i say i DO smoke i dont want to but i do and i wish i could stop buti cant i have tried and i will try again and probably again and again its a hard thing to stop as it is am addiction after all and i am told by research that it is harder to leave the cigs than it is for the drug addicits to get off herion etc so thats bad.
however if the laws are set then i will follow them as i am not a law breaker.
I just think it will be hard for alot of people to follow this specially if they stop it all together which i dont think they will, yes maybe it is a total cop out you ban or you dont like they have in other places oh you see im mixed up on this one and i wish i had never answered the thead ha ha ha xx

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You know maybe a better thing would have been a ban with it up to the individual establishment to decide if they want to have a seperate smokers room. That way smokers can choose to go somewhere and have a fag and non smokers can choose to stay out of that room. The rest of the place is smoke free and everyone's happy - or is that too simple?

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trhats actually more what i think
no smoking in foos rooms
and there has to be a seperate space from the non smokers for smokers
that way everyones happy
if they cant provide the room they cant cater for smokers
would make more sense for the local pubs round here where its food and old men smokers that are their punters

Im just not very good at saying what I mean at the moment

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I voted cop out, because I think the government ought to be able to make a controversial decision and bloody stick to it, rather than fanny around an issue.

They banned fox hunting to protect the life of a fox, why not smoking to protect the lives of people?

Also think that along with the ban there should be some sort of awareness / education program to assist people in giving up smoking, I dunno, maybe even a financial incentive.

Last point, smoking is so minging.



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Tell you what
drinkings bad for you too
lets get that banned in pubs

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